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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Middle Ages/Archive 8
Greetings from the Military History WikiProject! In recent months, we have been working on transfering our project task forces into a standardized style, in order to make them more readable and user friendly, especially for new editors. We have also been redirecting the talk pages of those task forces to our main project talk page. The latter is partially because many of the posts on the task force pages are duplicates of those on the main talk page. It is also partially because the main talk page has many more watchers than the individual task force pages, and so discussions will have more input and queries will be less likely to become "lost" or otherwise go unanswered. You can see a sample of the new style and the talk page redirection at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Australia, New Zealand and South Pacific military history task force or many of our other task forces. We would like to do the same to the Crusades task force. However, as this is located at Wikipedia:WikiProject Middle Ages/Crusades task force, which is part of this project's space, we would like to make sure there is no objection to us changing the style or redirecting the talk page. We would also be willing to move the task force into our project's space, with a redirect from your project's space, if that is preferable. Dana boomer (talk) 22:15, 7 January 2011 (UTC), on behalf of the coordinators of the Military history WikiProject.__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-01-07T22:15:00.000Z","author":"Dana boomer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dana_boomer-2011-01-07T22:15:00.000Z-MILHIST_task_force_restructuring","replies":["c-Adam_Bishop-2011-01-08T00:52:00.000Z-Dana_boomer-2011-01-07T22:15:00.000Z"]}}-->
- I don't object really, but there is much more to the crusades than just the military aspect, and that's why I didn't start the Task Force in the Military History project...actually I probably should have made it its own WikiProject, and I suppose it could still be done now. On the other hand, the crusades Task Force is being used much more by Military History than the Middle Ages project, and if it can be fully integrated and better-used in MH, then I wouldn't have a problem with it. Adam Bishop (talk) 00:52, 8 January 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-01-08T00:52:00.000Z","author":"Adam Bishop","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Adam_Bishop-2011-01-08T00:52:00.000Z-Dana_boomer-2011-01-07T22:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Please weigh in over at Talk:Ailred_of_Rievaulx#Requested_move. Thanks, Aristophanes68 (talk) 06:50, 2 February 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-02T06:50:00.000Z","author":"Aristophanes68","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aristophanes68-2011-02-02T06:50:00.000Z-Comments_needed_on_Aelred\/Ailred","replies":[]}}-->
An editor has asked for a community reassessment of this article to see if it still meets the good article criteria. The discussion is at Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Al-Kindi/1. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:47, 23 March 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-23T00:47:00.000Z","author":"Jezhotwells","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jezhotwells-2011-03-23T00:47:00.000Z-Al-Kindi","replies":[]}}-->
I have nominated the Sack of Amorium article as a Featured Article candidate. Any interested user is invited to state his/her opinion and offer criticism! Constantine ✍ 19:39, 3 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-03T19:39:00.000Z","author":"Cplakidas","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cplakidas-2011-04-03T19:39:00.000Z-Sack_of_Amorium_FAC","replies":[],"displayName":"Constantine"}}-->
The article Constans II states he was the last consul, but the consul box at the end of the article states that also Justinian II became consul. Who was the last consul? Constans II or Justinian II?--Casmiki (talk) 10:08, 10 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-10T10:08:00.000Z","author":"Casmiki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Casmiki-2011-04-10T10:08:00.000Z-Last_consul","replies":[]}}-->
Yesterday, I found the list of medieval universities. I think this list make sense, because the list of oldest universities in continuous operation only lists universities that not only existed in the middle ages, but have a track record of continuity until today. But the list is very strange:
- actually there are two lists, one per date another per country, this is easy to sort out, we need to move that to a sortable table,
- the criteria of inclusion is university crated until 1600 whereas the latest end date for Middle ages that I know of is 1516,
- there are no sources, but apparently the first institution listed is the oldest according to the Guinness book, is that compliant with our source policy?
Any advice? Feel free to carry out any necessary actions. --Anneyh (talk) 19:22, 12 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-12T19:22:00.000Z","author":"Anneyh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Anneyh-2011-04-12T19:22:00.000Z-List_of_medieval_universities","replies":[]}}-->
The Wulfrida article states she was Queen of Wessex, as wife of Æthelred of Wessex. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wulfrida states "No verifiable evidence that Wulfrida existed." I assume users from this project may wish to comment one way or another on this deletion. OCNative (talk) 07:09, 10 May 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-05-10T07:09:00.000Z","author":"OCNative","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-OCNative-2011-05-10T07:09:00.000Z-AfD_pending_on_Wulfrida,_Queen_of_Wessex?","replies":[]}}-->
Open page move requests relevant to Medieval history. Your opinion solicited:
(Discuss) – Uí Ímair → House of Ivar (Viking dynasty in Ireland)- (Discuss) – Maria of Castile → Maria, Princess of Asturias (Queen of Aragon)
(Discuss) – Elisabeth of Bavaria, Queen of Sicily →Elisabeth of Bavaria, Queen of Germany (Consort of the Hohenstaufen King Conrad IV of Germany)
(Discuss) – Lothair II of Lotharingia → Lothair II- (Discuss) – Maria of Aragon (1299–1316) → Maria of Aragon, Lady of Cameros
- (Discuss) – Norman dynasty → House of Normandy
(Discuss) – Kingdom of Germany → King of the Germans- (Discuss) – House of Wuffing → Wuffingas (East Anglian kings) Kauffner (talk) 11:34, 2 June 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-02T11:34:00.000Z","author":"Kauffner","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kauffner-2011-06-02T11:34:00.000Z-Page_move_report","replies":[]}}-->
A vigorous discussion is currently under way at Talk:Beak doctor costume about the historical use of the phrase 'beak doctor', and whether said costume was worn before the seventeenth century. I've not been able to find any reliable sources which show that the costume was worn before 1619, and therefore thought I'd ask here if anyone knew of any. Any other contributions, either to the discussion or the article, would be welcome.--Doug Coldwell talk 11:09, 23 June 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-23T11:09:00.000Z","author":"Doug Coldwell","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Doug_Coldwell-2011-06-23T11:09:00.000Z-Sources_needed_for_Beak_doctor_costume_article","replies":["c-Hchc2009-2011-06-25T07:03:00.000Z-Doug_Coldwell-2011-06-23T11:09:00.000Z"]}}-->
- I've had a look, and I couldn't find any high quality sources in my collections. Hchc2009 (talk) 07:03, 25 June 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-06-25T07:03:00.000Z","author":"Hchc2009","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hchc2009-2011-06-25T07:03:00.000Z-Doug_Coldwell-2011-06-23T11:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
There is a dicussion of this man's status as King and his article title at Talk:Svein, King of Norway. If interested please join in the discussion.--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 04:53, 7 July 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-07-07T04:53:00.000Z","author":"Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Queen_Elizabeth_II's_Little_Spy-2011-07-07T04:53:00.000Z-Svein,_King_of_Norway","replies":[]}}-->
Thomas the Slav is currently undergoing review as a Featured Article candidate. Any interested user is invited to state his/her opinion and offer criticism! Constantine ✍ 12:55, 7 July 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-07-07T12:55:00.000Z","author":"Cplakidas","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cplakidas-2011-07-07T12:55:00.000Z-Thomas_the_Slav_FAC","replies":[],"displayName":"Constantine"}}-->
So, I have been informed that I should ask for permission to add your banner to this article. Should I add {{WikiProject Middle Ages}} to it? 65.93.15.213 (talk) 06:13, 15 July 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-07-15T06:13:00.000Z","author":"65.93.15.213","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-65.93.15.213-2011-07-15T06:13:00.000Z-Components_of_medieval_armour","replies":[]}}-->
I have created an article that I called Final dissolution of the Western Roman Empire. Is this article necessary? and, if so, are there any improvements to it that I can make? DCI2026 (talk) 05:11, 19 July 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-07-19T05:11:00.000Z","author":"DCI2026","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DCI2026-2011-07-19T05:11:00.000Z-Roman_Empire_dissolution,_476","replies":[]}}-->
I just closed a move discussion at Talk:Tzachas#Requested move, and then an editor objected to the move. Before doing anything further with the page, I'd like to see input from some more editors, so we can be certain that we're getting the correct title. If anyone here can register an opinion there, it would be helpful. Cheers. -GTBacchus(talk) 17:32, 12 August 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-12T17:32:00.000Z","author":"GTBacchus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GTBacchus-2011-08-12T17:32:00.000Z-Input_requested_regarding_article_title","replies":[]}}-->
Interesting article ... Ealdgyth - Talk 16:51, 30 August 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-08-30T16:51:00.000Z","author":"Ealdgyth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ealdgyth-2011-08-30T16:51:00.000Z-Interesting_tidbit...","replies":[]}}-->
Just an observation: at FAC and elsewhere, I'm often seeing articles that need reviewing concerning (or overlapping) the Middle Ages. (At FAC at the moment: Jovan Vladimir, Exchequer of Pleas, St Nicholas, Blakeney, Geoffrey (archbishop of York). Recently: a ton of articles, some of which failed FAC for lack of reviewers.) So I came here to pull up the list of participants ... and it's a very long list, with many active and knowledgeable WPians. But I don't see any regular notification of articles that need reviewing. So I'm wondering: could this project become more effective and more active? I can help at FAC and WP:PRH (which is just the regular peer review, for history-related articles). - Dank (push to talk) 13:39, 18 October 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-18T13:39:00.000Z","author":"Dank","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dank-2011-10-18T13:39:00.000Z-Could_WP:MA_do_more?","replies":[]}}-->
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