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Regarding Herman op den Graeff May be you should try a google book search (since if you do a regular search only the nonsense produced by family members turns up). you will find that the only facts on the wiki article are that a guy called Herman up den Graeff was a Mennonite immigrant from Germany. Anything else (plantagenet, de Graeff-link to the Netherlands, Holy Grail) is COMPLETE NONSENSE. if any of the claims made (obviously made by family members) on the wiki page were true, don't you think that such an important person (remember, he was allegedly a "guardian of the Holy grail") would be mentioned extensively in historic literature on google books; obviously this is not the case. F.ex. he claim that he was a descendent of the De Graeff family in Amsterdam or a descendent of House of Cleves is plain B*llsht*t. Check Nederland's Adelsboek, Europäische Stammtalfen etc. Hence i think it's better to let the public decide; that's why i suggested that the page should be deleted.
86.156.164.152 has been editing Lucy Letby without consensus for a while, and continued after a warning, should I warn them again, or should I wait for someone else to? I'm pretty new, so I'd appreciate your input. MetalBreaksAndBends (talk) 15:56, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240514155600","author":"MetalBreaksAndBends","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MetalBreaksAndBends-20240514155600-Lucy_Letby","replies":["c-Jfire-20240514163300-MetalBreaksAndBends-20240514155600"]}}-->
Looks like they may have backed off. If there is more problematic editing from IPs, I would put in a request at WP:RPP. Jfire (talk) 16:33, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240514163300","author":"Jfire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jfire-20240514163300-MetalBreaksAndBends-20240514155600","replies":["c-MetalBreaksAndBends-20240514163500-Jfire-20240514163300"]}}-->
Thank you for the advice. MetalBreaksAndBends (talk) 16:35, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240514163500","author":"MetalBreaksAndBends","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MetalBreaksAndBends-20240514163500-Jfire-20240514163300","replies":["c-Jfire-20240514222100-MetalBreaksAndBends-20240514163500"]}}-->
I’ve gone ahead and requested page protection. Jfire (talk) 22:21, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240514222100","author":"Jfire","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jfire-20240514222100-MetalBreaksAndBends-20240514163500","replies":["c-MetalBreaksAndBends-20240515133500-Jfire-20240514222100"]}}-->
Thank you. MetalBreaksAndBends (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240515133500","author":"MetalBreaksAndBends","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-MetalBreaksAndBends-20240515133500-Jfire-20240514222100","replies":[]}}-->
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Hello, I thought that those youtube lessons, encouraging people to read books from those authors were very good, so I added them. I don't contribute a lot to the English wikipedia, but I have contributed a lot to the Hebrew one, where I am writing for the last 17 years so I am familiar with the guidelines.
Did you try to listen to one of those lessons? Yoavd (talk) 06:31, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241231063100","author":"Yoavd","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yoavd-20241231063100-removal_of_links","replies":["c-Jfire-20241231063800-Yoavd-20241231063100"]}}-->
Hi Yoavd. User-generated YouTube content is almost never an appropriate external link. See WP:EL and WP:YOUTUBE. Jfire (talk) 06:38, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241231063800","author":"Jfire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jfire-20241231063800-Yoavd-20241231063100","replies":["c-Yoavd-20241231073000-Jfire-20241231063800"]}}-->
Hello again, I read the WP:YOUTUBE and it seemed strange- how can it be a copyright issue? We add the link, and the whole idea of youtube is that it wants you to listen / view whatever was uploaded there. Anyway I can ask the author of the videos to send a formal letter about the copyright issue. In the Hebrew version of the Wikipedia there is no such ban. Even if the links will not return, it would be nice if you listen to one of them - they are really good. --Yoavd (talk) 07:30, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241231073000","author":"Yoavd","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Yoavd-20241231073000-Jfire-20241231063800","replies":[]}}-->
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Hello Jfire,
I see you deleted a paragraph in the Experimental tests of Quantum gravity.
The paragraph was an attempt to make a statement, maybe not in a perfect form, that there is a possibility for experimental test, but not an assertion about the achieved results. It was there for a month and nobody objected it. I think Wikipedia policy about sources as sources on themselves (WP:SELFSOURCE) may be applicable here.
Quantum gravity is a very fragile science. Options do not come to us very often here. Despite of tremendous efforts, it was the only feasible proposal available. Would you be able to restore the paragraph or maybe perhaps to change it in a way it will better suit Wikipedia standards please?
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Hi @IvStewart. I removed that content because it is in violation of Wikipedia's policy on original research, having not been published in a peer-reviewed journal. See my message on your talk page. Jfire (talk) 23:57, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250103235700","author":"Jfire","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jfire-20250103235700-IvStewart-20250103235400","replies":[]}}-->
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