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Happy editing! Kj cheetham (talk) 16:28, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-04-21T16:28:00.000Z","author":"Kj cheetham","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kj_cheetham-2022-04-21T16:28:00.000Z-Welcome!","replies":[]}}-->
Stop editing the box office results on 2022 in film. Zvig47 (talk) 00:05, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-07T00:05:00.000Z","author":"Zvig47","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zvig47-2022-07-07T00:05:00.000Z-Please_stop","replies":["c-Iacowriter-2022-07-07T00:07:00.000Z-Zvig47-2022-07-07T00:05:00.000Z"]}}-->
- I’m sorry, but I was trying to be accurate. Here are the box office results right here:
- https://www.boxofficemojo.com/year/world/?ref_=bo_nb_tt_tab Iacowriter (talk) 00:07, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-07T00:07:00.000Z","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-2022-07-07T00:07:00.000Z-Zvig47-2022-07-07T00:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
The Numbers is usually the site to go for when you’re looking for box office totals. They seem to get their totals in faster. If you edit with information from The Numbers from now on that would be great. I appreciate your want to edit for accurate numbers. Zvig47 (talk) 00:33, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-07T00:33:00.000Z","author":"Zvig47","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zvig47-2022-07-07T00:33:00.000Z-Please_stop","replies":["c-Iacowriter-2022-07-07T12:36:00.000Z-Zvig47-2022-07-07T00:33:00.000Z"]}}-->
- Thank you for letting me know Iacowriter (talk) 12:36, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-07T12:36:00.000Z","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-2022-07-07T12:36:00.000Z-Zvig47-2022-07-07T00:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Please stop adding "of the same name" to articles about adaptations as you did here. It is emblematic of poor writing as explained at WP:OFTHESAMENAME. Betty Logan (talk) 15:00, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-08T15:00:00.000Z","author":"Betty Logan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Betty_Logan-2022-07-08T15:00:00.000Z-Of_the_same_name","replies":["c-Iacowriter-2022-07-08T20:52:00.000Z-Betty_Logan-2022-07-08T15:00:00.000Z"]}}-->
- I’m sorry. I thought that’s how it worked Iacowriter (talk) 20:52, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-08T20:52:00.000Z","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-2022-07-08T20:52:00.000Z-Betty_Logan-2022-07-08T15:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
You removed Moon Man even though The Numbers cites its gross. BOM doesn't have data on the film but that doesn't mean you remove it. Also Dr. Strange still had an increase in gross this weekend so it's still playing. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 01:19, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220830011900","author":"Roman Reigns Fanboy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Roman_Reigns_Fanboy-20220830011900-Stop_removing_content","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20220830012000-Roman_Reigns_Fanboy-20220830011900"]}}-->
- I’m sorry, more people were using box office mojo, so I thought I had to use it as well Iacowriter (talk) 01:20, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220830012000","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20220830012000-Roman_Reigns_Fanboy-20220830011900","replies":["c-Roman_Reigns_Fanboy-20220830012200-Iacowriter-20220830012000"]}}-->
- Most of the people I've seen there use both sources. And they are listed there for a reason. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 01:22, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220830012200","author":"Roman Reigns Fanboy","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Roman_Reigns_Fanboy-20220830012200-Iacowriter-20220830012000","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20220830012300-Roman_Reigns_Fanboy-20220830012200"]}}-->
- I looked up that box office mojo is more accurate Iacowriter (talk) 01:23, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220830012300","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20220830012300-Roman_Reigns_Fanboy-20220830012200","replies":["c-Roman_Reigns_Fanboy-20220830183900-Iacowriter-20220830012300"]}}-->
- Who says Box Office Mojo is more accurate? They even greatly change their grosses and don't publish accurate numbers often, but approximates and estimates which tend to be in 0s. Especially for international gross. See The Batman for example. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 18:39, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220830183900","author":"Roman Reigns Fanboy","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Roman_Reigns_Fanboy-20220830183900-Iacowriter-20220830012300","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20220830191000-Roman_Reigns_Fanboy-20220830183900"]}}-->
- https://www.reddit.com/r/boxoffice/comments/cazog8/other_the_numbers_vs_boxoffice_mojo_on_avatar/ Iacowriter (talk) 19:10, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220830191000","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20220830191000-Roman_Reigns_Fanboy-20220830183900","replies":["c-Roman_Reigns_Fanboy-20220830204100-Iacowriter-20220830191000"]}}-->
- A forum isn't a way to check reliability of a film. But the post is just about one film (Avatar), that too according to comments because it was released again after its run ended. The Numbers doesn't count it. I don't know why you have omitted that part. Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 20:41, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220830204100","author":"Roman Reigns Fanboy","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Roman_Reigns_Fanboy-20220830204100-Iacowriter-20220830191000","replies":[]}}-->
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- what should I write about? Iacowriter (talk) 19:03, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220909190300","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20220909190300-Crossroads-20220902055200","replies":[]}}-->
Hi. A belated WELCOME to Wikipedia. Thanks for adding the partial creator credit to the Miles Morales article with your recent edits. However, you also removed other content from the article without providing a rationale for this in an edit summary. When removing material, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page.
Specifically, you deleted Miles' middle name, and mention that he is a fictional character from the lede section. Miles' middle name is established in sources cited elsewhere in the article, such as the Infobox, and describing fictional characters as such in their articles is a standard part of the explanatory opening of articles on them. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 13:42, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220910134200","author":"Nightscream","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nightscream-20220910134200-Miles_Morales","replies":["c-Nightscream-20220911051500-Nightscream-20220910134200"]}}-->
- Please stop deleting content from the article without providing a rationale for this in an edit summary, as you did with this edit to Miles Morales. As I stated above, it is a widespread practice on Wikipedia for articles on fictional characters to describe them as such in the opening sentence of the lede section, as seen in the examples Allen Walker, Baron Munchausen, Goodman Beaver, Kenneth Widmerpool, Mr. Dooley, all of which are featured articles. The Miles Morales article is itself a Good Article, and the opening sentence has described him as a fictional character for many years. If you disagree with this, then the proper approach is to discuss this with other editors on the article's talk page, and not engage in edit warring with other editors. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 05:15, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220911051500","author":"Nightscream","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nightscream-20220911051500-Nightscream-20220910134200","replies":["c-Nightscream-20221018181600-Nightscream-20220911051500"]}}-->
- Stop blanking content from the Miles Morales without providing a valid edit summary or discussing it with other editors, as you did a second time with this edit. If you continue to do this, you risk being blocked from editing. Please do not make that necessary. If you have a legitimate rationale for removing that information, then begin a discussion on the article's talk page. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 18:16, 18 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221018181600","author":"Nightscream","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nightscream-20221018181600-Nightscream-20220911051500","replies":[]}}-->
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- I was just adding to the box office from the numbers. Iacowriter (talk) 21:17, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240125211700","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20240125211700-BBQboffin-20240125211600","replies":["c-BBQboffin-20240125213700-Iacowriter-20240125211700"]}}-->
- The numbers were correct based on the source accessed 1/24/2024. If you want to update the number on today's date using the same source, please also change the source access date from 1/24/2024 to today's date. Cheers! BBQboffingrill me 21:37, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240125213700","author":"BBQboffin","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BBQboffin-20240125213700-Iacowriter-20240125211700","replies":[]}}-->
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Hi Iacowriter! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Frankenstein's monster several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.
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- Frankenstein is the doctor. I’m trying to be accurate. Iacowriter (talk) 13:21, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240607132100","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20240607132100-Belbury-20240607080800","replies":["c-Belbury-20240607132400-Iacowriter-20240607132100"]}}-->
- Everyone's trying to be accurate. Belbury (talk) 13:24, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240607132400","author":"Belbury","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Belbury-20240607132400-Iacowriter-20240607132100","replies":[]}}-->
Can you update the box office counts for Inside Out 2? I kinda suck at editing lol Evyatar Olami (talk) 16:43, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240623164300","author":"Evyatar Olami","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Evyatar_Olami-20240623164300-Hey","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20240623164800-Evyatar_Olami-20240623164300"]}}-->
- I already did. Thank you. Iacowriter (talk) 16:48, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240623164800","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20240623164800-Evyatar_Olami-20240623164300","replies":[]}}-->
Please follow the WP:SIMPLE rules and write a meaningful edit summary to explain your changes.
When updating the Box Office gross[1] please first update the article body, then also update the Infobox and Lead section to match. (The purpose of the infobox and lead section is to summarize the article body.) Leaving the article in an inconsistent state is not constructive, if you don't have time to update an article properly then leave it alone. -- 109.76.133.216 (talk) 01:18, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240930011800","author":"109.76.133.216","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-109.76.133.216-20240930011800-Gross","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20240930012100-109.76.133.216-20240930011800"]}}-->
- I’m sorry I don’t know what you mean. I was trying to be accurate. Iacowriter (talk) 01:21, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240930012100","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20240930012100-109.76.133.216-20240930011800","replies":["c-109.76.134.139-20240930141200-Iacowriter-20240930012100"]}}-->
- If you don't understand why you should write a meaningful edit summary and need further help an explanation with that you should read the Help:Edit_summary documentation after you have read the WP:SIMPLE rules about how to edit Wikipedia.
- The WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE is to summarize the key points of the article. The WP:LEAD is to supposed to "summarize not supplant" the key points of the article. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia, the article body is the most important part, the Infobox is an added extra. When editing Wikipedia film articles you are supposed to first edit the article body, in this case you should first update the "Box Office" section with the new gross figures, then after that also update the lead section and Infobox section so that the numbers in all three places are the same. Updating only the Infobox without also updating the other places with the box office gross leaves the article in an inconsistent state and is not helpful, it would be better if you did not edit the article at all. Again this is supposed to be an encyclopedia, being the most up-to-date is not as important thing, and making one part of the article more accurate without also updating the main article makes it less accurate overall.
- The small changes in the box office gross figures are not even that important, what is more important is the overall comparison to the budget (and other costs) to see if the film is close to being profitable. (The article Box office explains that a distributor only gets to keep half the gross on average, so in general a film needs to gross double the budget before it becomes profitable.)
- So again, if you are going to update the box office gross you should first update the gross in the article body, the lead section, and also the Infobox. -- 109.76.134.139 (talk) 14:12, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240930141200","author":"109.76.134.139","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-109.76.134.139-20240930141200-Iacowriter-20240930012100","replies":[]}}-->
Do you understand how to round numbers in the normal way? MOS:LARGENUM
In the article Aliens in the Attic the Infobox Lead section and Box Office section all listed the gross as $58 million. (The precise gross was $57,881,056, which normally rounds up to $58 million. It could be rounded to $57.9 million if an editor wanted to be more precise, but it is unclear why there would be any good reason to be more precise, especially in an old article for a film from over a decade ago.)
You changed that article so that the Infobox said $57.8 million and the lead section said $57 million (and the article body still said $58 million).[2] Do you understand how there being 3 different figures claiming to be the box office gross in the same article is not an improvement? The accuracy you have been attempting to add makes the article less accurate and more confusing to normal readers.
Truncating $57,881,056 down to $57 million instead of rounding in the normal way is not accurate at all, the opposite of you stated intentions. Truncating numbers like this is inaccurate and misleading and just plain unnecessary. MOS:LARGENUM explains the rules of rounding numbers in the normal way. Even if a few editors have decide to set a bad example and ignore the very basic Mathematics to of rounding and to truncate numbers down instead the Wikipedia rule applies to film articles the same as any other article. (Looking at previously warnings I can see you have been editing for at least 2 years. I think it is time for you to stop following the bad examples and to start reading a bit more of the project documentation and learning more about best practice. Looking at "Featured Articles" and "Good articles" might also help.)
Please stop making Wikipedia articles less accurate and even more inconsistent. Do not truncate the gross follow MOS:LARGENUM and round numbers in the normal way. -- 109.76.134.139 (talk) 14:35, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240930143500","author":"109.76.134.139","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-109.76.134.139-20240930143500-Gross","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20240930174300-109.76.134.139-20240930143500"]}}-->
- How’s this?
- The Wild Robot# Iacowriter (talk) 17:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240930174300","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20240930174300-109.76.134.139-20240930143500","replies":["c-109.76.134.139-20240930195600-Iacowriter-20240930174300"]}}-->
- You mean this diff? No that fails again. You updated the Infobox and then you truncated the gross in the lead section, inconsistent for no good reason. More importantly you updated the infobox and lead section without first updating the Box office which still says $53.1 million.
- This is really simple. First update the article body, the Box office section. Then use the same number to also update the lead section and Infobox.
- Do not use two different numbers in the Infobox and the lead section.[3] Many editors do this (apparently because they're all copying each other) but they have no good reason for it. Using two different numbers with a different level of decimal precision is setting yourself and other editors to fail and inevitably results in mistakes where numbers are truncated down instead of being rounded in the normal way. -- 109.76.134.139 (talk) 19:56, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240930195600","author":"109.76.134.139","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-109.76.134.139-20240930195600-Iacowriter-20240930174300","replies":[]}}-->
Please follow the WP:SIMPLE rules and explain your changes with a meaningful edit summary. It would be helpful if you would write a meaningful edit summary such as "Updating Box office gross"'. It would be particularly helpful if you made it clear that you were "Updating Box office gross based on The-Numbers.com" as it is can be unclear where editors are pulling the box office gross figures from.
Again diff you failed to update the article body, this part is not optional. -- 109.76.134.139 (talk) 20:07, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240930200700","author":"109.76.134.139","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-109.76.134.139-20240930200700-Gross","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20240930200900-109.76.134.139-20240930200700"]}}-->
- Oh, I see. I’m sorry. I didn’t know what you were talking about at first, but I get it now. Iacowriter (talk) 20:09, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240930200900","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20240930200900-109.76.134.139-20240930200700","replies":["c-109.76.134.139-20240930202600-Iacowriter-20240930200900"]}}-->
- You say you get it but minutes later you did this (diff) you again updated the Infobox and lead section of a film article with two different figures and failed to update the article body to match either of those two figures. I want you to stop and think very carefully about what you are doing.
- I will try explaining it again. San Andreas (film) is from 2015, it grossed multiples of the budget and it should be clear to any normal reader that was clearly a financial success and there is probably no need to update the gross at all. Box Office Mojo currently lists the total gross as $474,609,154 and that rounds to either $474.6 million or $475 million, pick one or the other, do not use two different figures, do not truncate that figure down to $474 million as that is inaccurate and misleading and unnecessary extra work for no good reason. (Truncating down is a failure to round numbers in the normal way as required by MOS:LARGENUM.) If you still want to update the gross then make sure to update the box office section of that article first, then also update the lead section, and the infobox with the same figures. There is no good reason not to use the same figure in all three cases. Try to remember to also update the access date in the Box office mojo reference.
- If you don't have time to update the article body do not edit. If you want to write different gross numbers in different parts of the same article do not edit. Leaving an article with three different box office gross figures is not constructive. -- 109.76.134.139 (talk) 20:26, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240930202600","author":"109.76.134.139","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-109.76.134.139-20240930202600-Iacowriter-20240930200900","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20240930202700-109.76.134.139-20240930202600"]}}-->
- I thought that’s how it worked. Iacowriter (talk) 20:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240930202700","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20240930202700-109.76.134.139-20240930202600","replies":["c-109.76.134.139-20240930204000-Iacowriter-20240930202700"]}}-->
- As I have tried to explain you have been mislead by bad examples. You need to stop and read the guidelines or at least look at the good examples, not the many common mistakes that low quality articles make. First think of the readers. Imagine this is an encyclopedia, imagine it being read by your grandmother trying to understand more about your favorite film, and imagine how unhelpful and confusing it is for an encyclopedia article to list what is supposed to be the same number in three different ways! On top of that think about why that number is being listed in the first place. The gross of San Andreas (film) is multiple times the budget and it should be obvious to most readers that the film was profitable, adding an extra decimal place is not going to change that. For a film that is currently in theaters and the box office is still increasing it might be helpful to have extra precision (I doubt it) but for older films there's no benefit to readers.
- I wouldn't have taken this much time to explain if I didn't think you were editing in WP:GOODFAITH but please think carefully about what you are doing and try to learn a bit more about the guidelines and best practices so you can avoid copying more bad examples. -- 109.76.134.139 (talk) 20:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240930204000","author":"109.76.134.139","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-109.76.134.139-20240930204000-Iacowriter-20240930202700","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20240930205300-109.76.134.139-20240930204000"]}}-->
- OK then. I apologize for stuff like that. Iacowriter (talk) 20:53, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240930205300","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20240930205300-109.76.134.139-20240930204000","replies":[]}}-->
This (diff) is my edit, updating the Box office section in article body of The Wild Robot. I do not know how to make this any clearer. Please try to update the article body first, and then update the lead section and infobox to match. -- 109.76.134.139 (talk) 20:58, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240930205800","author":"109.76.134.139","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-109.76.134.139-20240930205800-Gross","replies":["c-Betty_Logan-20241027050700-109.76.134.139-20240930205800"]}}-->
- Despite the lengthy discussion above where the very basic rules of mathematical rounding were explained to you, you have continued with incorrect edits such as this one. After I corrected your edit, where I clearly explained you had incorrectly rounded the figure, you reverted my edit without explanation. This cannot go on. Either you lack the basic aptitude to edit the articles competently, or you are being deliberately disruptive. It cannot go on. I have decided to give a you a formal warning, and if the behavior continues I will look into having you blocked. Betty Logan (talk) 05:07, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027050700","author":"Betty Logan","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Betty_Logan-20241027050700-109.76.134.139-20240930205800","replies":["c-Timur9008-20241028122000-Betty_Logan-20241027050700"]}}-->
- User:Betty Logan doesn't look like he is listening. A different article but still [4]
- (and that's today) Timur9008 (talk) 12:20, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028122000","author":"Timur9008","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Timur9008-20241028122000-Betty_Logan-20241027050700","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20241028122300-Timur9008-20241028122000"]}}-->
- I thought that’s how it worked. I’m sorry. Iacowriter (talk) 12:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028122300","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241028122300-Timur9008-20241028122000","replies":[]}}-->
I see you are still at it.(diff) The least you could do is put the same number in both the Infobox and the lead section. Just because other editors are doing it wrong is no reason for you to knowingly keep doing it wrong. You are supposed to first update the article body, then the lead and Infobox are supposed to summarize what is in the article body!
(Not that it is any excuse, but I will note that very few people are updating the box office gross and associated details properly either, the Box Office Mojo reference access-date claims to have not been changed since 2009 which is blatantly false.) -- 109.78.199.177 (talk) 20:23, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241215202300","author":"109.78.199.177","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-109.78.199.177-20241215202300-Gross","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20241215202600-109.78.199.177-20241215202300"]}}-->
- I thought I did do that. I’m not trying to be false on purpose. Iacowriter (talk) 20:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241215202600","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241215202600-109.78.199.177-20241215202300","replies":["c-109.78.199.177-20241215203100-Iacowriter-20241215202600"]}}-->
- Numbers are not for everyone. Writing the same number twice is not hard (and you are supposed to be writing it correctly three times). The evidence and repeated mistakes suggests you need to completely stop editing numbers in any Wikipedia articles. -- 109.78.199.177 (talk) 20:31, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241215203100","author":"109.78.199.177","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-109.78.199.177-20241215203100-Iacowriter-20241215202600","replies":[]}}-->
Please just stop(diff) Truncating $43.9 million down to $43 million is unnecessary and wrong. If you cannot do basic rounding of numbers in the normal way you should stop trying to update the box office gross figures entirely. -- 109.79.65.132 (talk) 06:15, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241226061500","author":"109.79.65.132","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-109.79.65.132-20241226061500-Gross","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20241226152100-109.79.65.132-20241226061500"]}}-->
- I’m sorry, I’m trying. No one taught me how to round numbers. Iacowriter (talk) 15:21, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241226152100","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241226152100-109.79.65.132-20241226061500","replies":["c-Timur9008-20241227110700-Iacowriter-20241226152100"]}}-->
- Please stop updating numbers. You've got enough warnings already regarding this. Timur9008 (talk) 11:07, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227110700","author":"Timur9008","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Timur9008-20241227110700-Iacowriter-20241226152100","replies":[]}}-->
May I ask why do you keep making edits without an edit summary? Also don't use VGChartz as a source in the future. Timur9008 (talk) 06:17, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241023061700","author":"Timur9008","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Timur9008-20241023061700-October_2024","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20241023130000-Timur9008-20241023061700"]}}-->
- I’m sorry. I didn’t know it was false. Iacowriter (talk) 13:00, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241023130000","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241023130000-Timur9008-20241023061700","replies":[]}}-->
Please stop. If you continue to use disruptive, inappropriate or hard-to-read formatting, you may be blocked from editing. There is a Wikipedia Manual of Style, and edits should not deliberately go against it without special reason. See the discussion at #Gross above. Betty Logan (talk) 05:10, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027051000","author":"Betty Logan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Betty_Logan-20241027051000-October_2024","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20241027154700-Betty_Logan-20241027051000"]}}-->
- I was trying to be accurate. Iacowriter (talk) 15:47, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027154700","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241027154700-Betty_Logan-20241027051000","replies":["c-Betty_Logan-20241027160800-Iacowriter-20241027154700"]}}-->
- Reverting someone who has corrected your rounding errors, and who has told you they are correcting your rounding errors, is not "trying to be accurate". Please go and read up on how to round numbers before doing it again. The concept is not that difficult to understand. Betty Logan (talk) 16:08, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027160800","author":"Betty Logan","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Betty_Logan-20241027160800-Iacowriter-20241027154700","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20241027161000-Betty_Logan-20241027160800"]}}-->
- All right then. Iacowriter (talk) 16:10, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027161000","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241027161000-Betty_Logan-20241027160800","replies":["c-Betty_Logan-20241027183300-Iacowriter-20241027161000"]}}-->
- Here you go: https://www.learninghub.ac.nz/rounding-numbers/. The concept is explained with simple examples. May I ask your approximate age range? Are you school age or have you finished school? If you have finished school you should have learned this stuff. If you are still in school, then you are welcome to check your rounding with me in the future. Betty Logan (talk) 18:33, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027183300","author":"Betty Logan","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Betty_Logan-20241027183300-Iacowriter-20241027161000","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20241027185600-Betty_Logan-20241027183300"]}}-->
- I’m 24 years old. I am a high school graduate. No one really taught me stuff like this. I have autism. Iacowriter (talk) 18:56, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027185600","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241027185600-Betty_Logan-20241027183300","replies":[]}}-->
Hello there. I just wanted to let you know that The Numbers box office listing you have added is actually incorrect in its total because it includes the two animated Spider-Verse films in the total BO despite the Sony's Spider-Man Universe article only applying to the live-action films that Sony produces. I know it can be confusing especially when these sites make such errors, but as those animated films are not included in this article, their box office should also not be included in the total (which should remain consistent with the data outlined at Sony's Spider-Man Universe § Box-office performance. Thank you. Trailblazer101 (talk) 16:54, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241107165400","author":"Trailblazer101","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Trailblazer101-20241107165400-Sony's_Spider-Man_Universe","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20241107165600-Trailblazer101-20241107165400"]}}-->
- Thank you for telling me. I did that because it was cited on Spider-Man’s box office for the highest grossing media franchisees of all time. Also, part of me feels like Spider-Man, I should add the MCU movies that he’s in where he isn’t the main character just to be accurate. The same goes with Batman for the DCEU. Iacowriter (talk) 16:56, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241107165600","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241107165600-Trailblazer101-20241107165400","replies":["c-Trailblazer101-20241107170600-Iacowriter-20241107165600"]}}-->
- Ah, well that just means someone else ran with the incorrect listing. I think that entry could just be split up with the Spider-Verse films added on as a third bullet point there. As for your other comment, the Spider-Man franchise box office is only for the films specifically branded with the "Spider-Man" IP. While these characters often appear in other properties, it would be odd counting a Captain America or Avengers film as part of the box office for Spider-Man films, especially when he is not the main character. I hope that makes sense. Trailblazer101 (talk) 17:06, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241107170600","author":"Trailblazer101","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Trailblazer101-20241107170600-Iacowriter-20241107165600","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20241107190700-Trailblazer101-20241107170600"]}}-->
- I guess that makes sense. Iacowriter (talk) 19:07, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241107190700","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241107190700-Trailblazer101-20241107170600","replies":[]}}-->
 You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary, as you did at List of highest-grossing media franchises. - R9tgokunks ⭕ 07:29, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241114072900","author":"R9tgokunks","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-R9tgokunks-20241114072900-November_2024","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20241114150900-R9tgokunks-20241114072900"]}}-->
- OK. I’m sorry. Iacowriter (talk) 15:09, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241114150900","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241114150900-R9tgokunks-20241114072900","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20241114151700-Iacowriter-20241114150900"]}}-->
- OK. I added the edit summary for Spider-Man. Are we good now? Iacowriter (talk) 15:17, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241114151700","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241114151700-Iacowriter-20241114150900","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20241114154200-Iacowriter-20241114151700"]}}-->
- I didn’t know the edit summary was mandatory. I am sorry. Iacowriter (talk) 15:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241114154200","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241114154200-Iacowriter-20241114151700","replies":["c-Timur9008-20241215165900-Iacowriter-20241114154200"]}}-->
- Please do not use Bare URL's as it leads to link rot. Also, update the accessdate parameter each time you update figures. Timur9008 (talk) 16:59, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241215165900","author":"Timur9008","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Timur9008-20241215165900-Iacowriter-20241114154200","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20241215170000-Timur9008-20241215165900"]}}-->
- I cited. Iacowriter (talk) 17:00, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241215170000","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241215170000-Timur9008-20241215165900","replies":["c-Timur9008-20241215170700-Iacowriter-20241215170000"]}}-->
- I'm referring to the Space Jam edits, not your Spider-Man edits. As pointed out in my edit summary, The Numbers already lists those Spider-Man films, no point listing them individually. Timur9008 (talk) 17:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241215170700","author":"Timur9008","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Timur9008-20241215170700-Iacowriter-20241215170000","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20241215170900-Timur9008-20241215170700"]}}-->
- I apologize. The reason I did that was because I thought most of those were incorrect because I thought the one that had higher numbers was more accurate. Iacowriter (talk) 17:09, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241215170900","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241215170900-Timur9008-20241215170700","replies":[]}}-->
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Am I allowed to add stuff to the Charlie Brown box office? There’s more than one theatrical Peanuts movie. Iacowriter (talk) 03:48, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227034800","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241227034800-Charlie_Brown_Box_Office","replies":[]}}-->
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- I don’t know what that means. Iacowriter (talk) 17:08, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227170800","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241227170800-Timur9008-20241227145400","replies":["c-Star_Mississippi-20241227174500-Iacowriter-20241227170800"]}}-->
- That's disingenous, and making the same edit while the discussion is ongoing and after many warnings indicates you lack the ability to edit mainspace and as such you have lost access to do so. You may file an unblock, but will need to explain why you understand the issue and how you'll change going forward Star Mississippi 17:45, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227174500","author":"Star Mississippi","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Star_Mississippi-20241227174500-Iacowriter-20241227170800","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20241227174700-Star_Mississippi-20241227174500"],"displayName":"Star"}}-->
- I’m sorry. As I said, I was never taught how round numbers. Iacowriter (talk) 17:47, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227174700","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241227174700-Star_Mississippi-20241227174500","replies":["c-Star_Mississippi-20241227174900-Iacowriter-20241227174700"]}}-->
- Then you should not edit in that area. Continuing to edit and requiring cleanup for others is not how the project works. Star Mississippi 17:49, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227174900","author":"Star Mississippi","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Star_Mississippi-20241227174900-Iacowriter-20241227174700","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20241227175100-Star_Mississippi-20241227174900","c-Phil_Bridger-20241227180800-Star_Mississippi-20241227174900"],"displayName":"Star"}}-->
- Or you could explain to me if I keep making the same mistake over and over again. Because I’m not trying to disrupt anything. The problem is that this is exactly what I had to deal with in the school that didn’t teach me how to round numbers. They were very punitive. I want to learn and you saying something like that isn’t going to help it, it’s just gonna make people feel bad about themselves. Iacowriter (talk) 17:51, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227175100","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241227175100-Star_Mississippi-20241227174900","replies":["c-Star_Mississippi-20241227180900-Iacowriter-20241227175100"]}}-->
- It has been explained to you many times and you have been warned. This is why you lost access beause you refused to change your behavior. Rounding is not necessarily needed. You're welcome to file an unblock if you wish to edit constructively elsewhere, but this is not where you learn how to round numbers. Star Mississippi 18:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227180900","author":"Star Mississippi","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Star_Mississippi-20241227180900-Iacowriter-20241227175100","replies":[],"displayName":"Star"}}-->
- Iacowriter, lots of people don't know how to round numbers, so they avoid trying to do so on Wikipedia. It is not the job of Wikipedia editors to make up for any shortcomings in schooling. Do something that you can do. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:08, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227180800","author":"Phil Bridger","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Phil_Bridger-20241227180800-Star_Mississippi-20241227174900","replies":["c-Iacowriter-20241227181100-Phil_Bridger-20241227180800"]}}-->
- Ok then just keep reverting and changing it if you have to. Iacowriter (talk) 18:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227181100","author":"Iacowriter","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Iacowriter-20241227181100-Phil_Bridger-20241227180800","replies":["c-Star_Mississippi-20241227181500-Iacowriter-20241227181100"]}}-->
- No. That's not how any of this works. You don't get to create work for other editors, which is why you don't have access to edit until you commit to changing your behavior. Star Mississippi 18:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227181500","author":"Star Mississippi","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Star_Mississippi-20241227181500-Iacowriter-20241227181100","replies":["c-Sergecross73-20241227182000-Star_Mississippi-20241227181500"],"displayName":"Star"}}-->
- Seconding this. If you don't know how to round numbers correctly, that's fine, but then you cannot be editing Wikipedia in that area. You need to find something that you can do correctly instead. Sergecross73 msg me 18:20, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227182000","author":"Sergecross73","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Sergecross73-20241227182000-Star_Mississippi-20241227181500","replies":[]}}-->
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