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Thank you for all your work to improve Crystal Frasier. :) I had that article on User:BOZ/Draft pages for a while; if you see anything else there which you would be interested in improving, that would be greatly appreciated. :) BOZ (talk) 16:02, 29 March 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-29T16:02:00.000Z","author":"BOZ","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BOZ-2021-03-29T16:02:00.000Z-Crystal_Frasier","replies":["c-Historyday01-2021-03-29T16:10:00.000Z-BOZ-2021-03-29T16:02:00.000Z"]}}-->
Sure! I was really excited to see she wrote Venus Envy too, which I found out by accident, which hopefully will come back soon (she has hinted that in the last couple years). I'll definitely look at your draft pages, for sure, thanks for sharing. I have a bunch of draft pages too for Lumberjanes, ZooPhobia, Port by the Sea, and Far-Fetched but I should probably organize them better as you have and move most of those into the draft space. --Historyday01 (talk) 16:10, 29 March 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-03-29T16:10:00.000Z","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Historyday01-2021-03-29T16:10:00.000Z-BOZ-2021-03-29T16:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Thank you for turning Assigned Male into an article. Copying within Wikipedia requires attribution. You added a link to Sophie Labelle in the edit summary when you expanded Assigned Male, which is the most important step. It would be helpful if you'd also add {{Copied}} to the talk pages of both articles, including the revision numbers. This ensures that pages with their attribution history won't be deleted.
On a separate topic, did you know there's a setting in preferences (under Gadgets > Appearance) to turn DAB links orange? For most people this makes them much easier to spot, so they can be fixed while you're editing the page. It helps reduce the notes from DPL bot. Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 07:54, 2 April 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-02T07:54:00.000Z","author":"BlackcurrantTea","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BlackcurrantTea-2021-04-02T07:54:00.000Z-Copying_within_Wikipedia","replies":["c-Historyday01-2021-04-02T13:21:00.000Z-BlackcurrantTea-2021-04-02T07:54:00.000Z"]}}-->
I can do that, but I already noted that in the edit summary when creating the article, so I thought it was sufficient enough. I did not know that for the DAB links, but I get stuff from the DPL bot all the time. The way around that is to make sure that the links to the pages are going where to the page where they are supposed to go.--Historyday01 (talk) 13:21, 2 April 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-02T13:21:00.000Z","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Historyday01-2021-04-02T13:21:00.000Z-BlackcurrantTea-2021-04-02T07:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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I see you have requested several moves recently. Just a note: You can request multiple articles in the same request if they have similar reasons, like what is done at Talk:Birth (anime). Have a good day! Link20XX (talk) 04:15, 20 April 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-20T04:15:00.000Z","author":"Link20XX","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Link20XX-2021-04-20T04:15:00.000Z-Note_about_move_requests","replies":["c-Historyday01-2021-04-20T13:07:00.000Z-Link20XX-2021-04-20T04:15:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hmm, that is a good idea. I could consolidate them into one move, or set of moves. I would have moved the articles manually, as it seems like a pretty non-controversial move in line with the existing consensus (LGBTQ to LGBT), but it didn't let me, so I requested the moves. --Historyday01 (talk) 13:07, 20 April 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-20T13:07:00.000Z","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Historyday01-2021-04-20T13:07:00.000Z-Link20XX-2021-04-20T04:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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First 2 sources do not even mention her at all, lots of unreliable sources or sources too close to the subject. Section 5 (Filmography) completely unreferenced. Needs more independent coverage of herself. In short: Less sources but better ones.
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@CommanderWaterford, I'm not sure what you mean by the first two sources not mentioning her. That is not true. The first one DOES mention her:
From Vivienne Medrano, the talented artist behind the drawings and animations on the YouTube channel, Vivziepop, Hazbin Hotel portrays all of the quirky, ambitious, and dark humor that Vivienne has become synonymous with.
Independent animator Vivziepop has lit up YouTube with her pilots Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss, which have earned some warranted criticism for their immature, edgy humor but are at least clear labors of love from an animation standpoint.
I wonder if you even read those articles, carefully. I can add sources in the fifth section, but I didn't think that was needed as that is noted in the main text, as sources aren't there for pages like Dana Terrace and Molly Ostertag, but whatever, man. This rejection does increase my skepticism of the draft process and I probably won't use it in the future, other than for the other articles out there. I would encourage you to add better sources, if you feel there are ones that are "unreliable" or "too close to the subject." While I'd be fine with "less sources," finding "better ones" is a challenge.Historyday01 (talk) 17:46, 25 April 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-25T17:46:00.000Z","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Historyday01-2021-04-25T17:46:00.000Z-CommanderWaterford-2021-04-25T17:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-CommanderWaterford-2021-04-25T18:03:00.000Z-Historyday01-2021-04-25T17:46:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Historyday01 It is not the task of an AfC reviewer to add better sources, this is task of the creator and for sure you will have to referencev via Wikipedia:Inline citation the works for which she was allegedly responsible. CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:03, 25 April 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-25T18:03:00.000Z","author":"CommanderWaterford","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-CommanderWaterford-2021-04-25T18:03:00.000Z-Historyday01-2021-04-25T17:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Historyday01-2021-04-25T18:05:00.000Z-CommanderWaterford-2021-04-25T18:03:00.000Z"]}}-->
Sigh, she was responsible for them. I guess I'll just remove a bunch of stuff then, and re-submit it, since I have no other option as it will get rejected again. Historyday01 (talk) 18:05, 25 April 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-25T18:05:00.000Z","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Historyday01-2021-04-25T18:05:00.000Z-CommanderWaterford-2021-04-25T18:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Cool, @User:Pharos. I'll definitely take a look at that. Thanks for sharing! Historyday01 (talk) 03:20, 27 April 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-27T03:20:00.000Z","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Historyday01-2021-04-27T03:20:00.000Z-Queering_Wikipedia_2021_User_Group_Working_Days:_May_14\u201316","replies":[]}}-->
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Omg man THANKS so much for revising my edit, I worked like 1 hour on it and it kinda hurt my feelings when the dude said that, and also I mean it kinda does count as seasons depending on who runs the show IMO. And also thanks for sending me a thanks if that makes any sense lol DogetimeeAKABlueyFan (talk) 01:05, 11 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-11T01:05:00.000Z","author":"DogetimeeAKABlueyFan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DogetimeeAKABlueyFan-2021-05-11T01:05:00.000Z-Thanks","replies":["c-Historyday01-2021-05-11T01:15:00.000Z-DogetimeeAKABlueyFan-2021-05-11T01:05:00.000Z"]}}-->
Sure! I was also planning to see if I could add a reception section, like with other animated shows, too. There's always someone who wants to remove stuff like that, unfortunately. These independent shows really need more attention. --Historyday01 (talk) 01:15, 11 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-11T01:15:00.000Z","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Historyday01-2021-05-11T01:15:00.000Z-DogetimeeAKABlueyFan-2021-05-11T01:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Exactly 👏 DogetimeeAKABlueyFan (talk) 01:34, 11 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-11T01:34:00.000Z","author":"DogetimeeAKABlueyFan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DogetimeeAKABlueyFan-2021-05-11T01:34:00.000Z-Thanks","replies":[]}}-->
I can start on the first part, if you’d like. I’ll just include IMDb and other stuff. DogetimeeAKABlueyFan (talk) 01:37, 11 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-11T01:37:00.000Z","author":"DogetimeeAKABlueyFan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DogetimeeAKABlueyFan-2021-05-11T01:37:00.000Z-Thanks","replies":["c-Historyday01-2021-05-11T03:33:00.000Z-DogetimeeAKABlueyFan-2021-05-11T01:37:00.000Z"]}}-->
Sure, that sounds good. I don't think IMDB can be used per WP:RSPSRC (a link to it can be added at the end, except there's probably enough links there already), but Rotten Tomatoes can be, although not in this case. Historyday01 (talk) 03:33, 11 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-11T03:33:00.000Z","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Historyday01-2021-05-11T03:33:00.000Z-DogetimeeAKABlueyFan-2021-05-11T01:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Thank you for giving me thanks for my edit on LGBT representation in American adult animation. I kind of rushed the edit, though, I may go back and clean it up later. Also, I just realized that we are mutuals on Twitter, lol. Wizzito (talk) 10:46, 11 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-11T10:46:00.000Z","author":"Wizzito","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wizzito-2021-05-11T10:46:00.000Z-Hello!","replies":["c-Historyday01-2021-05-11T13:30:00.000Z-Wizzito-2021-05-11T10:46:00.000Z"]}}-->
Oh cool. Yeah, there was a new episode of Final Space with a lesbian character, but I haven't seen any articles about it yet, so as soon as I see one, I'll add that in too. Tribore is called "genderfluid" on the wiki for the show, which isn't surprising as Tribore literally went into labor in one ep. Historyday01 (talk) 13:30, 11 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-11T13:30:00.000Z","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Historyday01-2021-05-11T13:30:00.000Z-Wizzito-2021-05-11T10:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Thanks for working on those asexuality-related articles and categories.
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Sure. --Historyday01 (talk) 17:22, 11 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-11T17:22:00.000Z","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Historyday01-2021-05-11T17:22:00.000Z-A_kitten_for_you!","replies":[]}}-->
Hi, you recently put a discussion in the archives on Talk:Twelve Forever after previously deleted it most pages will auto-archives when needed too you do not need to delete or self-archive a talk page yourself if you think a page archive is not working bring it up on the teahouse
Of course your archive is up to you (I personally achieve when the page is over 100K Fan Of Lion King 🦁 (talk) 17:09, 11 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-11T17:09:00.000Z","author":"Fanoflionking","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fanoflionking-2021-05-11T17:09:00.000Z-Archives","replies":["c-Historyday01-2021-05-11T17:24:00.000Z-Fanoflionking-2021-05-11T17:09:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Fan Of Lion King \ud83e\udd81"}}-->
Fan Of Lion King, I probably shouldn't have deleted it in the first place, that's my bad, so thanks for bringing that to my attention. But, I thought an archive would be better as no one has commented on it since October of last year. I honestly don't trust pages to auto-archive, as many pages I've seen don't even have a talk page archive section (or any comments on the talk page at all) so I usually just do it manually. --Historyday01 (talk) 17:24, 11 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-11T17:24:00.000Z","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Historyday01-2021-05-11T17:24:00.000Z-Fanoflionking-2021-05-11T17:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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The list of crossdressing characters is a much more appropriate place for that bit, yeah. Presenting as a man while hiding she is a woman is not the same as being genderqueer, which refers to identification and not presentation.[1] The text about characters finding out her "true gender" and that she presents as male because her mother asked her to both support the reading that she identifies as a woman and not as genderqueer. CaribouFanfare (talk) 20:14, 20 June 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-20T20:14:00.000Z","author":"CaribouFanfare","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CaribouFanfare-2021-06-20T20:14:00.000Z-Akira_on_List_of_animated_series_with_LGBT_characters:_2015\u20132019","replies":["c-Historyday01-2021-06-21T02:56:00.000Z-CaribouFanfare-2021-06-20T20:14:00.000Z"]}}-->
Yeah, that makes sense. I'll move the entry over there shortly. I purposely made the page for instances like this, where I don't want to get rid of the character entry, but it falls more into an area of cross-dressing than any specific identity. I just wanted to hear what you had to say on this before making the move. And if you are ever planning to watch that series, good luck! Its...pretty mature and problematic in some ways. --Historyday01 (talk) 02:56, 21 June 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-21T02:56:00.000Z","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Historyday01-2021-06-21T02:56:00.000Z-CaribouFanfare-2021-06-20T20:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Ok. As I said before, if you are that interested in adding the content (which I personally don't think is that helpful to the article), find some better sources! I mean, if the story is covered on Fox News, it is bound to be covered somewhere else too, especially for someone like Gwen Berry, as media outlets tend to cover the same topic, and have a better article on the topic. I also suggest you post on the talk page of Gwen Berry and say why this content should be added. Historyday01 (talk) 01:16, 13 July 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-07-13T01:16:00.000Z","author":"Historyday01","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Historyday01-2021-07-13T01:16:00.000Z-Picard's_Facepalm-2021-07-12T23:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Picard's_Facepalm-2021-07-13T01:35:00.000Z-Historyday01-2021-07-13T01:16:00.000Z"]}}-->
Done. Additionally - there were 2 other cited sources... you dismissed all 3 (including fox news), despite all 3 meeting WP:RS. That is not conduct in WP:AGF. We can continue the discussion on the Berry talk page. Picard's Facepalm (talk) 01:35, 13 July 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-07-13T01:35:00.000Z","author":"Picard's Facepalm","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Picard's_Facepalm-2021-07-13T01:35:00.000Z-Historyday01-2021-07-13T01:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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