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Introduction to contentious topics

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Hi Freedoxm, the "500 edits and an account age of 30 days" restriction applies to internal discussions such as Special:Diff/1252133822 (requested moves, "RMs") too. See WP:ECR for details about this type of restriction. It used to be more explicit about this, but now simply everything except edit requests is prohibited, and participating in a discussion isn't making an edit request. This could be made less confusing, I guess, and I don't blame you for having been unaware of this. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:34, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241019233400","author":"ToBeFree","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ToBeFree-20241019233400-ToBeFree-20241019232800","replies":["c-Freedoxm-20241019235300-ToBeFree-20241019233400"],"displayName":"~ ToBeFree"}}-->

Ok, thanks for reminding me. I just saw the rule that says that you must be extended-protected to talk. 🗽Freedoxm🗽 (talk) 23:53, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241019235300","author":"Freedoxm","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Freedoxm-20241019235300-ToBeFree-20241019233400","replies":["c-ToBeFree-20241020000100-Freedoxm-20241019235300"],"displayName":"\ud83d\uddfdFreedoxm\ud83d\uddfd"}}-->

Hi Freedoxm, I understand your frustration and I am thankful for your message on my talk page; I'd even like to restore it if you allow me to. Seeing a page being technically editable, spending time on writing something constructive and having it reverted instantly is almost guaranteed to upset the writer, and I didn't mean to. Regarding opinions: Opinions on talk pages are a difficult topic in general, not just for the Arab-Israeli conflict or other formally contentious topics. You did a good job at focusing on the Wikipedia-side of the issue and on the content itself. Others have more difficulty in distinguishing between their personal opinion about a conflict and what an encyclopedia should contain about it. In extreme cases, even normally-allowed comments are removed for using Wikipedia as a discussion forum or even using Wikipedia as a battleground. So I wouldn't worry too much about the revert if possible; it's the least severe reason for which a comment could be removed at all. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:01, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241020000100","author":"ToBeFree","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ToBeFree-20241020000100-Freedoxm-20241019235300","replies":["c-Freedoxm-20241020000100-ToBeFree-20241020000100"],"displayName":"~ ToBeFree"}}-->

thanks, but there is no need to restore it 🗽Freedoxm🗽 (talk) 00:01, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241020000100","author":"Freedoxm","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Freedoxm-20241020000100-ToBeFree-20241020000100","replies":["c-ToBeFree-20241020000300-Freedoxm-20241020000100"],"displayName":"\ud83d\uddfdFreedoxm\ud83d\uddfd"}}-->

Okay, no problem. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:03, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241020000300","author":"ToBeFree","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-ToBeFree-20241020000300-Freedoxm-20241020000100","replies":[],"displayName":"~ ToBeFree"}}-->

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Youre a [ ] [ ] Palestinian children they can go die in rubble like the rest of the 40,000 don't ever undo my edit

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~~long live israel~~ 216.54.161.22 (talk) 06:33, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241208063300","author":"216.54.161.22","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-216.54.161.22-20241208063300-Youre_a_[_]_[_]_Palestinian_children_they_can_go_die_in_rubble_like_the_rest_of","replies":["c-Freedoxm-20241208063600-216.54.161.22-20241208063300"]}}-->

i will report u if you wont stop 🗽Freedoxm🗽 (talk) 06:36, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241208063600","author":"Freedoxm","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Freedoxm-20241208063600-216.54.161.22-20241208063300","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud83d\uddfdFreedoxm\ud83d\uddfd"}}-->

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Attacks on the United States

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Hey Freedoxm! I came across your profile during some of your recent editing in regard to the Syrian conflict. I've been working on a big project over the last few weeks: Attacks on the United States. The aim is to have a list of every time the U.S. (government/military) was attacked, but not when the U.S. was attacking. My hope is to create attacks by the United States once this list is finished.

Well anyway, I wanted to see if you would be interested in helping me put together some of the summaries for the list. I am fairly sure most of the attacks themselves are on the list. But, I'm still working to get the summaries and references put together for each of them. If you are interested or have any questions, feel free to message me back here or on my talk page anytime! If not, I completely understand. Keep up the good work on Wikipedia! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 03:54, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241209035400","author":"WeatherWriter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WeatherWriter-20241209035400-Attacks_on_the_United_States","replies":["c-Freedoxm-20241209043700-WeatherWriter-20241209035400"],"displayName":"Weather Event Writer"}}-->

Politics are not usually allowed on this talk page, but i'll make it an exception. Unfortunately, I am not interested, as I will have many other articles to edit, and they are my personal hobby to do. Thanks for messaging me! 🗽Freedoxm🗽 (talk) 04:37, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241209043700","author":"Freedoxm","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Freedoxm-20241209043700-WeatherWriter-20241209035400","replies":["c-Theofunny-20241218165400-Freedoxm-20241209043700"],"displayName":"\ud83d\uddfdFreedoxm\ud83d\uddfd"}}-->

[Redacted] Theofunny (talk) 16:54, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241218165400","author":"Theofunny","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Theofunny-20241218165400-Freedoxm-20241209043700","replies":["c-Freedoxm-20241218185700-Theofunny-20241218165400"]}}-->

Clearly, It's not a mishmash. It's a personal opinion. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 18:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241218185700","author":"Freedoxm","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Freedoxm-20241218185700-Theofunny-20241218165400","replies":["c-Theofunny-20241219125800-Freedoxm-20241218185700","c-Theofunny-20241219164900-Freedoxm-20241218185700"],"displayName":"\ud83d\uddfdFreedoxm\ud83d\uddfd"}}-->

[Redacted] Theofunny (talk) 12:58, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241219125800","author":"Theofunny","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Theofunny-20241219125800-Freedoxm-20241218185700","replies":[]}}-->

No problem, I am redacting the comments. I did not mean to offend you. Theofunny (talk) 16:49, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241219164900","author":"Theofunny","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Theofunny-20241219164900-Freedoxm-20241218185700","replies":["c-Freedoxm-20241219165000-Theofunny-20241219164900"]}}-->

ok 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 16:50, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241219165000","author":"Freedoxm","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Freedoxm-20241219165000-Theofunny-20241219164900","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud83d\uddfdFreedoxm\ud83d\uddfd"}}-->

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Undiscussed move

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For Ko Yong Hui, the move you made requires evidence and a move discussion. See WP:KOREANNAME; we recommend against spaces in names by default, unless that is the proven WP:COMMONNAME practice. seefooddiet (talk) 22:47, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241217224700","author":"Seefooddiet","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Seefooddiet-20241217224700-Undiscussed_move","replies":["c-Freedoxm-20241218003500-Seefooddiet-20241217224700"]}}-->

Okay, but i'll discuss on the article's talk page to move it back to Ko Yong Hui as her son, Kim Jong Un, is supreme leader, and same, has the space between the last names. Thanks for letting me know! 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 00:35, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241218003500","author":"Freedoxm","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Freedoxm-20241218003500-Seefooddiet-20241217224700","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud83d\uddfdFreedoxm\ud83d\uddfd"}}-->

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Why change direct use of template to redirected use?

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So, why did you make this edit to Tahrir al-Sham, changing the use of {{redirect category shell}} to the redirected shorthand {{rcat shell}}? Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 07:54, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227075400","author":"Fred Gandt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fred_Gandt-20241227075400-Why_change_direct_use_of_template_to_redirected_use?","replies":["c-Freedoxm-20241227175300-Fred_Gandt-20241227075400","c-Freedoxm-20241227175500-Fred_Gandt-20241227075400"]}}-->

I use the edit summary around 70% of the time, and I removed the redirect category shell to the rcat shell because it's simplified and has less bytes. Also, is there a problem with changing that? Thanks for your comment ob this talk page. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 17:53, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227175300","author":"Freedoxm","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Freedoxm-20241227175300-Fred_Gandt-20241227075400","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud83d\uddfdFreedoxm\ud83d\uddfd"}}-->

also i just added the preference. thank you! 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 17:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227175500","author":"Freedoxm","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Freedoxm-20241227175500-Fred_Gandt-20241227075400","replies":["c-Fred_Gandt-20241227212200-Freedoxm-20241227175500"],"displayName":"\ud83d\uddfdFreedoxm\ud83d\uddfd"}}-->

63.7% as of just now. Those few bytes are not worth the edit, and "redirect category shell" is clearer to understand that "rcat shell". Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 21:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227212200","author":"Fred Gandt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Fred_Gandt-20241227212200-Freedoxm-20241227175500","replies":["c-Freedoxm-20241227220100-Fred_Gandt-20241227212200"]}}-->

80% Disagree with the rcat shell issue. I'm not willing to argue or making this a big deal so this will be my last reply on this topic. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 22:01, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227220100","author":"Freedoxm","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Freedoxm-20241227220100-Fred_Gandt-20241227212200","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud83d\uddfdFreedoxm\ud83d\uddfd"}}-->

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Where did you come up with Wekepidea as a misspelling? I'm trying to determine if it has an established usage or if it would be an implausible redirect. I'm leaning towards the latter but I've been wrong in these situations before, so I figured I'd ask. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 04:39, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250101043900","author":"Clovermoss","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Clovermoss-20250101043900-Question","replies":["c-Freedoxm-20250101080400-Clovermoss-20250101043900","c-Freedoxm-20250101080600-Clovermoss-20250101043900"],"displayName":"Clovermoss\ud83c\udf40"}}-->

Wekepidea can be considered a misspelling because some people confuse all i's as e's and e's as i's. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 08:04, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250101080400","author":"Freedoxm","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Freedoxm-20250101080400-Clovermoss-20250101043900","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud83d\uddfdFreedoxm\ud83d\uddfd"}}-->

I'm also not really sure if it's considered implausible or not. I just created that redirect because some people who read wikipedia have recently discovered this website, and again, the reason is per above. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 08:06, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250101080600","author":"Freedoxm","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Freedoxm-20250101080600-Clovermoss-20250101043900","replies":["c-Clovermoss-20250101081300-Freedoxm-20250101080600"],"displayName":"\ud83d\uddfdFreedoxm\ud83d\uddfd"}}-->

Okay, fair enough. There's a lot of little nuances to learn around here so please don't feel too bad about things. Mistakes are normal and pretty much anything can be fixed pretty quickly. Generally, redirects should only be created for "common" misspellings. Where to draw that line can sometimes be controversial, but I'd say in this case it's towards the more "implausible" line of thought. The main reason I wanted to double check is because sometimes things that look like unlikely misspellings are a pop culture thing (like Xitter). I'm generally just someone that thinks communication makes the world a better place so I figured I'd ask. Hopefully my tangents aren't too confusing 😅. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 08:13, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250101081300","author":"Clovermoss","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Clovermoss-20250101081300-Freedoxm-20250101080600","replies":["c-Freedoxm-20250101081400-Clovermoss-20250101081300"],"displayName":"Clovermoss\ud83c\udf40"}}-->

thanks for commenting, and it isnt confusing. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 08:14, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250101081400","author":"Freedoxm","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Freedoxm-20250101081400-Clovermoss-20250101081300","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud83d\uddfdFreedoxm\ud83d\uddfd"}}-->