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Thanks @Gog the Mild. The blurb looks good, will make some small amendments later. For the lack of image: how small does the image need to be to come on the front page? I might have time to make a version with larger text so it's still readable. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 16:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241015162100","author":"Femke","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Femke-20241015162100-Gog_the_Mild-20241015160300","replies":["c-Gog_the_Mild-20241015163800-Femke-20241015162100"],"displayName":"\u2014Femke \ud83d\udc26"}}-->
Hi Femke. I wouldn't worry about to image. Any TFA image will need to be used in the article. And you will need to lose 75 characters to make room for it. The text size is set, so as to fit in with the rest of the main page. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:38, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241015163800","author":"Gog the Mild","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gog_the_Mild-20241015163800-Femke-20241015162100","replies":[]}}-->
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Hey, it looks like you undone my edit removing the term "disabling". Can you send me where the current consensus on the inclusion of the term "disabling" was gathered? I couldn't find it in the talk archives. ThatIPEditorThey / Them08:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241125083700","author":"ThatIPEditor","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ThatIPEditor-20241125083700-Re:_Undo_of_the_TFA_article","replies":["c-Femke-20241125084400-ThatIPEditor-20241125083700"]}}-->
Upon rereading the discussions, the consensus is more implicit: at the FAC. The source for this is in the definition of ME/CFS, saying that "People with ME/CFS have a much lower ability to do activities they could do before they got sick", which is the definition of disabling (https://www.cdc.gov/me-cfs/signs-symptoms/). —Femke 🐦 (talk) 08:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241125084400","author":"Femke","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Femke-20241125084400-ThatIPEditor-20241125083700","replies":["c-ThatIPEditor-20241125085300-Femke-20241125084400"],"displayName":"\u2014Femke \ud83d\udc26"}}-->
Thanks :) Will try to gather consensus on the talk page. ThatIPEditorThey / Them08:53, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241125085300","author":"ThatIPEditor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ThatIPEditor-20241125085300-Femke-20241125084400","replies":[]}}-->
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Just saw that myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome was today's FA and wanted to say both congratulations and thank you for all your hard work getting it to FA status! It's an excellent article, and as a sufferer, it makes me really happy to see my condition receiving such fantastic coverage on Wikipedia. It's a daunting topic to approach, especially with all the outdated information out there, and having a well-made Wikipedia article like this does real good in educating people about ME/CFS. From one chronically ill editor to another: Thank you! Ethmostigmus 🌿 (talk | contribs) 10:35, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241125103500","author":"Ethmostigmus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ethmostigmus-20241125103500-Congrats_on_today's_FA!","replies":[]}}-->
Thank you today for the article, introduced: "Ten years ago, geneticist Ron Davis called ME/CFS "probably the last major disease that we don't know anything about". A lot has changed since, most notably a global pandemic that led to millions more contracting the illness (15% to 50% of those with long COVID) and the start of research programmes in many countries. A lot still remains to be discovered. ME/CFS has a long and contested history, making it an interesting but difficult article to write. Comments most welcome :)" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:21, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241125112100","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20241125112100-Congrats_on_today's_FA!","replies":["c-Femke-20241125121200-Gerda_Arendt-20241125112100"]}}-->
Thanks both. It's probably the most challenging article I've tackled so far, but maybe also one of the most rewarding ones. I thought it would be somewhat straightforward after bringing long COVID to GA, but that wasn't the case. I know the 2010s Wikipedia article was a cause of hurt for many with ME/CFS. Most of the big fights on the direction of the article were done before I started, but I'm happy to have brought the rest into this decade as well :). Now back to topics I actually know stuff about. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 12:12, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241125121200","author":"Femke","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Femke-20241125121200-Gerda_Arendt-20241125112100","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-20241130201900-Femke-20241125121200"],"displayName":"\u2014Femke \ud83d\udc26"}}-->
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Femke, Sorry for this ping, but I didn't understand this reply[1] I mean to say In this edit I've removed styling, coloring, excessive detailing, and a statement.[2] I didn't add new content in this edit. According to your suggestion, I replied in 112 words[3] as you advised me to reply only in 200 words. So again I have to trim my old answers? In the sections of Answers and Further Answers.? Please assist me and explain to me what's the problem in my answers and how I can fix it? or you can allow my old answers as they are. ®asteemTalk16:03, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241203160300","author":"Rasteem","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rasteem-20241203160300-ARE","replies":["c-Femke-20241203162600-Rasteem-20241203160300","c-Femke-20241203171800-Rasteem-20241203160300"],"displayName":"\u00aeasteem"}}-->
Hi Rasteem. So the way ARE works is that all your answers together should normally be under 500 words. I gave you an extension of 200 words, so you can go up to 700. You can change all the text that hasn't been specifically replied to. For clarity, please do link to an old version of the reponse. The reason we are quite strict at ARE about these limits is for two reasons: (1) you show collaborative spirit by not making people read a WP:Wall of text. This way of communicating is key when you navigate contentious topics. (2) admins have limited time to go over these reports, and usually not much is gained when people go over the limit. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 16:26, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241203162600","author":"Femke","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Femke-20241203162600-Rasteem-20241203160300","replies":["c-Rasteem-20241203172600-Femke-20241203162600"],"displayName":"\u2014Femke \ud83d\udc26"}}-->
Is it okay if I make my first reply, Answers, within 500 words, and my second reply, Further answers, also within 500 words? Or do I need to condense both sections? Additionally, do I need to trim all my answers to fit within the 700-word limit for both the Answers and Further Answers subsections.? ®asteemTalk17:26, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241203172600","author":"Rasteem","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Rasteem-20241203172600-Femke-20241203162600","replies":[],"displayName":"\u00aeasteem"}}-->
@Rasteem: in case you didn't see this. Replies are included in the total word count, and you're over by more now.
(Despite me now replying, feel free to remove or shorten your most recent reply)
Two misunderstandings in your reply:
the WP:standard offer is an unblock or unban after 6 months, not before a sanction is even imposed. Didn't you say you would read policy and guidance before citing it?
Similarly, an appeal can only be lodged after a sanction has been imposed.
Slowing down is really your best way forward here, rather than needing to reply to all comments. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 17:18, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241203171800","author":"Femke","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Femke-20241203171800-Rasteem-20241203160300","replies":["c-Rasteem-20241203182900-Femke-20241203171800"],"displayName":"\u2014Femke \ud83d\udc26"}}-->
@Femke I'm really sorry I removed these words WP:SO & appeal. Also I trimmed my answers in this edit.[4] I it is required I can remove my last two replies. And a note Not for admin. ®asteemTalk18:29, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241203182900","author":"Rasteem","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Rasteem-20241203182900-Femke-20241203171800","replies":["c-Femke-20241203201600-Rasteem-20241203182900"],"displayName":"\u00aeasteem"}}-->
We're getting closer to a decision here, so maybe this will be moot soon. But you're still over 1,000 words. As I said above, all words count here, including the "Note for admin". In principle, basically all notes at an AE report are for admins, who are the designated people to make a decision on whether a sanction is necessary. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 20:16, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241203201600","author":"Femke","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Femke-20241203201600-Rasteem-20241203182900","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2014Femke \ud83d\udc26"}}-->
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@Maliner: all answered :). —Femke 🐦 (talk) 09:37, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241208093700","author":"Femke","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Femke-20241208093700-Maliner-20241207205500","replies":["c-Maliner-20241208100300-Femke-20241208093700"],"displayName":"\u2014Femke \ud83d\udc26"}}-->
Thanks so much for your kind support. I will try to work on it; probably it will take the whole of 2025, I guess. I am planning to give my USMLE STEP 1 in late 2025. Please pray for me. Maliner (talk) 10:03, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241208100300","author":"Maliner","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Maliner-20241208100300-Femke-20241208093700","replies":["c-Femke-20241208101600-Maliner-20241208100300"]}}-->
That sounds daunting. While I don't pray, I do wish you the best of luck. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 10:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241208101600","author":"Femke","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Femke-20241208101600-Maliner-20241208100300","replies":["c-Maliner-20241208105600-Femke-20241208101600"],"displayName":"\u2014Femke \ud83d\udc26"}}-->
Thanks @Femke for your good wishes. Maliner (talk) 10:56, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241208105600","author":"Maliner","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Maliner-20241208105600-Femke-20241208101600","replies":[]}}-->
Hi Femke, just checking if you're planning to comment on this FAC? Thanks, 750h+10:22, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241208102200","author":"750h+","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-750h+-20241208102200-Model_S","replies":["c-Femke-20241208103000-750h+-20241208102200"],"displayName":"750"}}-->
I've got a Long covid flare up at the moment, so I'll probably let this one pass. Might change my mind later. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 10:30, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241208103000","author":"Femke","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Femke-20241208103000-750h+-20241208102200","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2014Femke \ud83d\udc26"}}-->
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Hi! Thanks for the invitation. I actually haven't lived in Exeter for a few years now so I won't be able to make it. Hope you have a great time though! Devgirl (talk) 18:49, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241214184900","author":"Devgirl","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Devgirl-20241214184900-RSVP","replies":[]}}-->
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A quick (but more extensive) thanks for your bold revisions to this article. I've been greatly frustrated with it for a long while, especially the abundance of flaky material and citations that don't meet WP:MEDRS. It needed exactly this kind of bold treatment - so thanks again! 45154james (talk) 16:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250106161200","author":"45154james","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-45154james-20250106161200-Thanks_for_your_recent_work_on_Air_pollution","replies":["c-Femke-20250106193400-45154james-20250106161200"]}}-->
Thanks. I was looking for an article with poor readability, as I'm trying to draft some text about this in WP:MTAU (or somewhere else). Trying to figure out what I do when I rewrite a text to be understandable. Apparently, one of the key things I do I do is replacing all the unreadable text cited to unreliable sources with more concise text.
I'm quite surprised how poorly that article is writing. It gets almost as many reads as climate change, but it's an utter mess in structure and sources. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 19:34, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250106193400","author":"Femke","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Femke-20250106193400-45154james-20250106161200","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2014Femke \ud83d\udc26"}}-->
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Hello Femke,
I'm conducting my first GA review, and as a listed mentor at WP:GAMENTOR, I was wondering if you could quickly check my review just to ensure I've done it correctly? It's at Talk:WLOK/GA1. I'm quite confident that the article is an easy pass, but I've held off on formally promoting it for now. No worries if you aren't up for it—I can pick another mentor. Thanks, Giraffer (talk) 00:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250107000000","author":"Giraffer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Giraffer-20250107000000-Request_for_GA_review_help","replies":["c-Femke-20250107085200-Giraffer-20250107000000"]}}-->
Happy to have a look User:Giraffer. I'll try to make some time after work today. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 08:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250107085200","author":"Femke","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Femke-20250107085200-Giraffer-20250107000000","replies":["c-Giraffer-20250108191900-Femke-20250107085200"],"displayName":"\u2014Femke \ud83d\udc26"}}-->
Thanks a lot for your help! I added a couple more suggestions which have now been addressed as well. Are you happy for me to close the review? Giraffer (talk) 19:19, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250108191900","author":"Giraffer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Giraffer-20250108191900-Femke-20250107085200","replies":["c-Femke-20250108192500-Giraffer-20250108191900"]}}-->
Yes, great work! —Femke 🐦 (talk) 19:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250108192500","author":"Femke","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Femke-20250108192500-Giraffer-20250108191900","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2014Femke \ud83d\udc26"}}-->
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