User talk:Coren/Archives/2011/April


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Atari 1020 alleged plagiarism

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Please point out which portion of the alleged source article your bot thinks I have copied. This article was written from scratch, so *I* know that any similarity to the linked page (which I have never seen before) is coincidental at best, though skimming that I can't even see the alleged similarity.

I don't intend poring over every line of the text in an attempt to figure out what part your bot seemingly thinks I have ripped off. Perhaps it would be a good idea to at least include this information in the boilerplate and/or warning. Multicherry (talk) 20:54, 2 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-02T20:54:00.000Z","author":"Multicherry","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Multicherry-2011-04-02T20:54:00.000Z-Atari_1020_alleged_plagiarism","replies":["c-Multicherry-2011-04-02T20:57:00.000Z-Multicherry-2011-04-02T20:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

My bad. The link *does* seem to include a report:- [1]. Which doesn't appear to demonstrate *anything* any remotely competent human would call plagiarism- which makes it worse, if anything. Multicherry (talk) 20:57, 2 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-02T20:57:00.000Z","author":"Multicherry","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Multicherry-2011-04-02T20:57:00.000Z-Multicherry-2011-04-02T20:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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walker products inc/

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(Jefeperro (talk) 20:20, 4 April 2011 (UTC)) I did not use copyrighted material. I spent the better part of my day creating an informative page and you flagged it for deletion. Your server should have water poured on it... or better yet acid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jefeperro (talk • contribs) 20:19, 4 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-04T20:20:00.000Z","author":"Jefeperro","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jefeperro-2011-04-04T20:20:00.000Z-walker_products_inc\/","replies":["c-BurtAlert-2011-04-04T20:23:00.000Z-Jefeperro-2011-04-04T20:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

FYI the tagging is done automatically by a bot. Also, do not attack other editors. Sorry about the talk page stalking Coren, pages I edit are added to my watchlist. BurtAlert (talk) 20:23, 4 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-04T20:23:00.000Z","author":"BurtAlert","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BurtAlert-2011-04-04T20:23:00.000Z-Jefeperro-2011-04-04T20:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-BurtAlert-2011-04-04T20:26:00.000Z-BurtAlert-2011-04-04T20:23:00.000Z"]}}-->
Just to add on to the, I read your article and it is copied practically word for word from the website. Yes, you added Wiki formatting, but the content is identical. BurtAlert (talk) 20:26, 4 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-04T20:26:00.000Z","author":"BurtAlert","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BurtAlert-2011-04-04T20:26:00.000Z-BurtAlert-2011-04-04T20:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

[[[User:Jefeperro|Jefeperro]] (talk) 20:35, 4 April 2011 (UTC)]That is because I am a professional writer, was hired to write an informative article for Automotive Aftermarket Weekly, which was used by the above mentioned company on their website. I am not attacking you. I own the material, if you had read the external links you could see the article I published.... Instead you jumped to conclusions and flagged my page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jefeperro (talk • contribs) 20:30, 4 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-04T20:35:00.000Z","author":"Jefeperro","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jefeperro-2011-04-04T20:35:00.000Z-walker_products_inc\/","replies":["c-Coren-2011-04-04T23:07:00.000Z-Jefeperro-2011-04-04T20:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Please read the guide to requesting and formalizing permission to use copyrighted works on Wikipedia. Note that, in addition to copyright requirements, the article must still comply with notability guidelines, advertising prohibition and avoid conflicts of interest. — Coren (talk) 23:07, 4 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-04T23:07:00.000Z","author":"Coren","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Coren-2011-04-04T23:07:00.000Z-Jefeperro-2011-04-04T20:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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COUNTRY STUDIES

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Quote "Information contained in the online Country Studies is not copyrighted and thus is available for free and unrestricted use by researchers. As a courtesy, however, appropriate credit should be given to the series." See here: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/frd/cs/about.html--Degen Earthfast (talk) 15:30, 5 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-05T15:30:00.000Z","author":"Degen Earthfast","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Degen_Earthfast-2011-04-05T15:30:00.000Z-COUNTRY_STUDIES","replies":[]}}-->

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In the Middle of Citing Sources

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Hi

I am in the process of creating a page for Forest Trends and I accidentally saved the version without the references. Please allow me to create this page fully.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Forest Trends (talk • contribs) 16:51, 7 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-07T16:51:00.000Z","author":"Forest Trends","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Forest_Trends-2011-04-07T16:51:00.000Z-In_the_Middle_of_Citing_Sources","replies":[]}}-->

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Your bot made some mistake

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See Talk:Shaolin Wuzang. JSH-alive talk • cont • mail 10:39, 8 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-08T10:39:00.000Z","author":"JSH-alive","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JSH-alive-2011-04-08T10:39:00.000Z-Your_bot_made_some_mistake","replies":[]}}-->

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How can I make a bot?

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Hello there.I am Damirgraffiti aka Damir and I would like to ask you, how can I create a bot?I am reading everywhere, but nothing is helping me at all.How can I?--Damirgraffiti ☺Say Yo to Me!☺ 18:26, 9 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-09T18:26:00.000Z","author":"Damirgraffiti","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Damirgraffiti-2011-04-09T18:26:00.000Z-How_can_I_make_a_bot?","replies":["c-VernoWhitney-2011-04-09T18:29:00.000Z-Damirgraffiti-2011-04-09T18:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

(talk page stalker) You should read Wikipedia:Creating a bot if you haven't already. It covers the basics of just about every aspect of creating a bot. VernoWhitney (talk) 18:29, 9 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-09T18:29:00.000Z","author":"VernoWhitney","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-VernoWhitney-2011-04-09T18:29:00.000Z-Damirgraffiti-2011-04-09T18:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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False positive

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Hi Coren! Corensearchbot has given a bit of a strange result for Carlsbad 5000. Apart from the title and the words "5K" and "run" there doesn't seem to be any similarities at all. Any idea why the bot would think there are? Maybe a little tweaking is needed! SFB 20:08, 10 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-10T20:08:00.000Z","author":"Sillyfolkboy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sillyfolkboy-2011-04-10T20:08:00.000Z-False_positive","replies":["c-Coren-2011-04-11T11:40:00.000Z-Sillyfolkboy-2011-04-10T20:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

The bot is a little sucky on very short articles and web pages. It's an annoyance, but given the number of true positive it ferrets out it's generally considered to be a reasonable price to pay. — Coren (talk) 11:40, 11 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-11T11:40:00.000Z","author":"Coren","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Coren-2011-04-11T11:40:00.000Z-Sillyfolkboy-2011-04-10T20:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Eloquence-2011-04-11T18:29:00.000Z-Coren-2011-04-11T11:40:00.000Z"]}}-->
Why not just exclude very short articles? To falsely tag a stub like Rock of Life seems very bitey and entirely avoidable.--Eloquence* 18:29, 11 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-11T18:29:00.000Z","author":"Eloquence","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Eloquence-2011-04-11T18:29:00.000Z-Coren-2011-04-11T11:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Your Bot is nutso.

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Less than a minute after I uploaded a new Wiki for Craig Redmon today, your Bot hit me with a plagiarism warning tag. This is not so. In fact when I tried the link the bot said I copied from the link would not open. How can I plagarize from a non-existent place? All the wording from the Wiki came from my own fevered little brain, compiled from two media reports on the candidate and his official bio from the Missouri House of Representatives website. If you get the vibe I'm slightly pissed, congratulations! I realize some bots do serve a purpose here on Wikipedia, but others really need to be kept on a tighter leash, yours included. I am an editor in good standing here as far as I know and have created a dozen or more articles, as well as hundreds of edits to others, in my 2+ years here and this is the FIRST time anyone has ever accused me of plagarism. Sector001 (talk) 23:45, 17 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-17T23:45:00.000Z","author":"Sector001","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sector001-2011-04-17T23:45:00.000Z-Your_Bot_is_nutso.","replies":[]}}-->

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barcodinglife

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Could you please put http://www.barcodinglife.com/ on the white list? It is mirroring wikipedia within seconds and I am getting frustrated with removing the template. Cheers Ruigeroeland (talk) 10:25, 19 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-19T10:25:00.000Z","author":"Ruigeroeland","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ruigeroeland-2011-04-19T10:25:00.000Z-barcodinglife","replies":["c-VernoWhitney-2011-04-19T14:03:00.000Z-Ruigeroeland-2011-04-19T10:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

 Done VernoWhitney (talk) 14:03, 19 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-19T14:03:00.000Z","author":"VernoWhitney","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-VernoWhitney-2011-04-19T14:03:00.000Z-Ruigeroeland-2011-04-19T10:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ruigeroeland-2011-04-26T09:59:00.000Z-VernoWhitney-2011-04-19T14:03:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks for that! Ruigeroeland (talk) 09:59, 26 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-26T09:59:00.000Z","author":"Ruigeroeland","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ruigeroeland-2011-04-26T09:59:00.000Z-VernoWhitney-2011-04-19T14:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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No activity in about 24 hours, the bot appears to be down.--NortyNort (Holla) 04:08, 24 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-24T04:08:00.000Z","author":"NortyNort","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NortyNort-2011-04-24T04:08:00.000Z-Bot_down?","replies":[]}}-->

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Hi. I see that you put an indefinite block on User:johnbibby on 26 June 2009 for copyright violations. Well, he resurfaced on 11 November 2009 under the name of User:Aa42john and hasn't changed his ways in any particular, AFAICS. I've had a dialogue about this with User:PamD - see User_talk:PamD#Wondering_whether... (follow the links!) - which clinched the identification - but, despite the blatant copyvio at Advisory_Committee_on_Mathematics_Education (which I'm surprised that no-one has previously picked up), we're both rather uncertain about whether blocking his new(ish) persona might be a bit too draconian. He's created quite a few new articles, often category-free and rather short and with redlinks or links to dab pages and suchlike (and therefore requiring extra work by others), but some of the articles (e.g. Walter Green Penty) overlap with my own and PamD's interests, plus he sort of means well and is clearly rather eccentric. Is there some way in which his new article contributions can be vetted before they are unleashed into mainspace? Any other suggestions? No great hurry about this. Best. --GuillaumeTell 15:22, 29 April 2011 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-29T15:22:00.000Z","author":"GuillaumeTell","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GuillaumeTell-2011-04-29T15:22:00.000Z-Activity_by_blocked_user","replies":[],"displayName":"Guillaume"}}-->

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