Sir William Talbot, 1st Baronet

William Talbot
Member of Parliament for County Kildare
In office 1613–1615
Preceded by	William Sutton Thomas Fitzmorris
Succeeded by	Sir Nicholas Whyte Maurice Eustace (Speaker)
Personal details
Died	16 March 1634 Ireland
Spouse	Alison Netterville (married c. 1608)

Sir William Talbot, 1st Baronet (died 1634), was an Irish lawyer and politician. He sat as MP for County Kildare in the Parliament of 1613–1615 and was in 1628 one of the negotiators of the Graces. However, he is probably mainly remembered as the father of Richard Talbot, 1st Earl of Tyrconnell.

Family tree

Sir William Talbot with wife, parents, and other selected relatives.[a] Thomas Talbot Malahide Katherine Betagh William Malahide Peter Robert Carton Genet FitzGerald William 1st Baronet d. 1634 Alison Netterville Robert 2nd Baronet 1608 – aft. 1670 Grace Calvert Garret Margaret Gaydon Richard 1st Earl Tyrconnell c. 1625 – 1691 Richard d. 1703 Malahide Frances d. 1718 William 3rd Baronet c. 1643 – 1691 Anne Nugent Legend XXX Subject of the article XXX Talbot baronets of Carton XXX Earls of Tyrconnell

Birth and origins

William was the son of Robert Talbot of Carton, County Kildare, and his wife Genet FitzGerald. His father was the third son of Thomas Talbot of Malahide, County Dublin.^[4][5][b] His father's family was Old English. The judge Sir Thomas Talbot (died 1487) was William's great-great-grandfather.

His mother was a daughter of Thomas fitz Bartholomew Fitzgerald.

Early life

Talbot was educated in the law, and attained a leading position as a lawyer in Dublin. About 1603 he was appointed Recorder of Dublin, but, being a staunch Catholic, which was a bar to public office, he was soon afterwards removed from office for recusancy.

Marriage and children

In or before 1608 Talbot married Alison, daughter of John Netterville of Castleton, County Meath.

Tyrconnell, his 8th son

William and Alison had eight sons:^[7]

1. Robert (1608 – aft. 1670), his successor^[8]
2. John
3. Garret (died before May 1671), married Margaret Gaydon and was father of William, the 3rd baronet^[9]
4. James
5. Thomas, a Franciscan, chaplain to Queen Henrietta Maria^[10]
6. Peter (1618 – 1680),^[11][12] became Catholic Archbishop of Dublin^[13]
7. Gilbert, a Confederate officer, married Dorothy Boyle, widow of Adam Loftus and sister of Roger Boyle, Earl of Orrery
8. Richard (1630–1691),^[14] became Earl of Tyrconnell and Lord Lieutenant of Ireland during the reign of James II, overhauling the Royal Irish Army that then fought in the Williamite War^[15]

—and eight daughters:^[7]

1. Mary, married Sir John Dongan, 2nd Baronet, and had at least ten children, including Sir Walter Dongan, 3rd Baronet, William Dongan, 1st Earl of Limerick, and Thomas Dongan, 2nd Earl of Limerick^[16]
2. Bridget
3. Margaret (died 1662), married Sir Henry Talbot of Templeogue^[17]
4. Frances, married James Cusack, son of Edward Cusack and grandson of Sir Thomas Cusack, Lord Chancellor of Ireland, and had three sons, Thomas, William and Nicholas^[18]
5. Elizabeth
6. Jane
7. Catherine
8. Eleanor, married Sir Henry O'Neill, 1st Baronet, of Killelagh, and was the mother of Sir Neil O'Neill and of Rose O'Neill, a foster daughter and heir-at-law of Rose MacDonnell, Marchioness of Antrim ^[19]

Later life

Parliament of 1613–1615

On 13 April 1613 Talbot was elected to the Irish Parliament 1613–1615 as MP for County Kildare,^[20] and became the unofficial legal adviser to the Roman Catholic party in the Irish House of Commons (they were a minority in the House, but a large one). Thomas Ryves, a close ally of the new Speaker, complained to the Westminster government that Talbot had abetted the return to Parliament of two schismatics. During the stormy scenes which marked the election of the speaker in the Irish House of Commons, culminating with one of the rival speakers (a fat man) sitting on the other, Talbot urged that the House should first purge itself of members elected by illegal means.

On 30 May 1613 Talbot was appointed by the House as one of the deputies to represent to James I the corrupt practices employed in the elections to secure a Protestant majority, and the arbitrary treatment of the Anglo-Irish Catholics. He crossed to England in July, and was examined by the Privy Council on his conduct in the Irish House of Commons. During the discussion of this question, Archbishop George Abbot demanded Talbot's opinion on a book (probably the Defensio fidei Catholicae adversus Anglicanae sectae errores) in which (he said) Francisco Suárez openly maintained the right of Catholics to kill a heretical king. Talbot hesitated, but acknowledged James I as the lawful king. The council was not satisfied with his answers, and on 17 July Talbot was committed to the Tower of London. On 13 November the Star Chamber sentenced him to a fine of £10,000. On 5 July 1614 Talbot was released and allowed to return to Ireland, and the fine was probably remitted.^[21] James I, on releasing him, disclaimed any intention of forcing the Irish Catholics to change their religion. From this time on Talbot became a supporter of the government, but took little part in politics.

Baronet

On 4 February 1623 Talbot was created a baronet and thus became Sir William.^[22] Subsequently, he received various grants of land.^[23]

The Graces

Main article: The Graces (Ireland)

In 1628 Talbot travelled to England to see the new king Charles I as one of the 11 agents sent by the Irish to negotiate the Graces.^[24]

Death

Talbot died on 16 March 1634 and was buried in Laraghbryan Cemetery outside Maynooth.^[25] He was succeeded by his eldest son Robert as the 2nd baronet.^[8]

Notes and references

Notes

1. This family tree is based on the written genealogies of the earl of Tyrconnell,^[1] the barons Talbot of Malahide,^[2] and the baronets Talbot of Carton.^[3] Also see the lists of children in the text.
2. The text follows the majority view on his father, but Burke (1915), focussing on the lineage of the Talbots of Malahide, maintains that Robert, his likely father, died childless.^[6]

Citations

1. Burke 1883, p. 529.
2. Burke & Burke 1915, p. 1933–1935.
3. G. E. C. 1900, p. 247–248.
4. Clavin 2009, paragraph 1. "Talbot, Sir William (d. 1634), 1st baronet, recusant lawyer and MP, was the son of Robert Talbot of Carton and grandson of Sir Thomas Talbot of Malahide."
5. Burke 1883, p. 529, left column, line 1. "William Talbot, Esq., who acquired the estate of Cartown, co Kildare, and was created baronet of Ireland, 4 February 1622, was son of Robert of Carton, 3rd son of Sir Thomas Talbot of Malahide, co. Dublin."
6. Burke & Burke 1915, p. 1934, left column. "He m. [married] to. Katherine Betagh, of Moynalty, Meath, and had issue, 1. William, his heir. 2. Peter ... 3. Robert, d.s.p. [died without issue]."
7. Clavin 2009, paragraph 6. "They had eight sons and eight daughters."
8. Creighton 2009, paragraph 1, 1st sentence. "Talbot, Sir Robert (b. [born] 1608; d. [died] in or after 1671), 2nd baronet ..."
9. G. E. C. 1900, p. 248. "Sir William Talbot, Bart. [I. [Ireland] 1623], nephew and h. [heir] male, being s. [son] and h. of Garrett Talbot, by Margaret, da. [daughter] of Henry Gaydon, of Dublin, which Garrett (who d. [died] before May 1671) was yr. [younger] br. [brother] of the late Baronet."
10. Creighton 2009, paragraph 1, 3rd sentence. "... Thomas, a Franciscan, who was chaplain to Queen Henrietta Maria -..."
11. Clarke 2009, 1st paragraph. "Talbot, Peter (c.1618–1680)"
12. Cheney, David M. "Archbishop Peter Talbot". www.catholic-hierarchy.org. Retrieved 1 January 2024.
13. Clarke 2009, 4th paragraph. "Talbot's appointment to the archbishopric of Dublin"
14. McGuire 2009, pargraph 1, 1st sentence. "Talbot, Richard (1630–91), earl and duke of Tyrconnell ... was the eighth son ..."
15. G. E. C. 1896, p. 444, line 28: "Richard Talbot, 5th or 8th son of Sir William Talbot 1st Bart., [I. [Ireland]] of Carton, co. Kildare (d. [died] 16 March 1633), by Alison, da. of John Netterville, was b. [born] probably about 1625;"
16. G. E. C. 1900, p. 253. "He [Dongan] m. [married], before 1626, Mary, 1st da. [daughter] of Sir William Talbot, 1st Bart. [I. [Ireland] 1623], of Carton, by Alison, da. of John Netterville, of Castleton, co. Meath."
17. Burke & Fox-Davies 1912, p. 683, left column, line 49: "Sir Henry Talbot, Knt. of Templeogue, co. Dublin, and Mount Talbot, co. Roscommon, m. [married] Margaret, dau. [daughter] of Sir William Talbot, Bart of Cartown, co. Kildare and sister of Richard, Duke of Tyrconnell, and by her (who d. [died] 14 Dec. 1662) ..."
18. Duignan 2009, [1]. "Cusack, Nicholas (fl. 1688–91) was third son of James ..."
19. G. E. C. 1904, p. 202 ps=. "He [Henry O'Neill] m. [married], probably about 1655, Eleanor, 8th and yst. [youngest] da. [daughter] of Sir William Talbot, 1st Baronet [I. [Ireand] 1623], of Carton ...".
20. House of Commons 1878, p. 618. "1613 / 13 " [April] / William Talbott, esq. / Cartowne / ditto [County Kildare]"
21. Clavin 2009, paragraph 4. "... he was released on 5 July 1614."
22. G. E. C. 1900, p. 247: "Talbot or Talbott: cr. [created] 18 Jan. 1622/3;"
23. Pollard 1898, p. 338, right column: "On 4 Feb 1621-2 he was created a baronet, and he subsequently received various grants of land."
24. Pollard & Kelsey 2004, p. 727, right column, line 1: "In 1628 Talbot was one of the commissioners sent to England to represent the interests of the Catholic 'Old English' in the negotiations with Charles I which eventually gave rise to the famous 'graces'."
25. Pollard & Kelsey 2004, p. 727, right column, line 12: "Talbot died on 16 March 1634 and was buried on 1 April at Maynooth, co. Kildare."

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Baronetage of Ireland
New creation	Baronet (of Carton) 1623–1634	Succeeded by Robert Talbot