^Gross، Terry (13 نوفمبر 2017). "Priest Responds To Gang Members' 'Lethal Absence Of Hope' With Jobs, And Love". Fresh Air. NPR. مؤرشف من الأصل في 2019-04-16. Well, I was ordained a priest in '84, and then I went to Bolivia to learn Spanish, really. And then it just turned me inside out. I was - it's what you would call being evangelized by the poor. I just said, I want to cast my lot with the poorest folks I can find. And it felt to me the fullness of where my life had led me to that point.